{"id":2859,"date":"2013-12-10T14:47:28","date_gmt":"2013-12-10T14:47:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.icgmagazine.com\/wordpress\/?p=2859"},"modified":"2014-06-05T19:21:57","modified_gmt":"2014-06-05T19:21:57","slug":"exposure-the-coen-brothers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.icgmagazine.com\/web\/exposure-the-coen-brothers\/","title":{"rendered":"The Coen Brothers &#8211; Inside Llewyn Davis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s hard to believe it\u2019s been 30 years since <i>Blood Simple<\/i>, the ferociously compelling debut from Joel and Ethan Coen, thrilled audiences at a little film festival called Sundance. In the ensuing three decades, the brothers have more than lived up to that film\u2019s promise, flexing their creative chops across a bouquet of Hollywood genres \u2013 B-gangster film, screwball comedy, western, prison road movie \u2013 with a look and feel so unique they all seem \u201cCoenesque,\u201d even though no two look or sound the same.<\/p>\n<p>Cinematographers in the brothers\u2019 firmament get to shine as brightly as the characters that parade before their cameras. They\u2019ve included Barry Sonnenfeld, ASC, Roger Deakins, ASC, BSC (who has earned five Oscar nominations over 11 Coen films), and, for their most current offering, <i>Inside Llewyn Davis<\/i>, a wintry dark period piece about a struggling New York City folk singer, French cinematographer Bruno Delbonnel, who shot the Coen\u2019s \u201cTuileries\u201d segment for <i>Paris je t\u2019aime<\/i>. It\u2019s true the brothers\u2019 creative DNA is so interwoven they finish each other\u2019s sentences. But when <strong>ICG Executive Editor David Geffner<\/strong> caught up with them before the Telluride premiere of <i>Inside Llewyn Davis<\/i>, he mostly discovered two self-deprecating jokesters whose main blind side is stealing from their own remarkable body of work.<\/p>\n<p><b>You\u2019ve made eleven movies with Roger Deakins, which has to be some kind of modern-day record. How fluid was the switch to Bruno Delbonnel?<\/b> Joel Coen: [Laughs] Well, we did call him <i>Roger<\/i> a lot. Ethan: Yeah, all the time. [Laughs] Joel: But Bruno wasn\u2019t a total unknown, as we worked with him for three days on <i>Paris je t\u2019aime<\/i>. Ethan: Right, and although it was a change after working so long with Roger, for so many films in succession, it didn\u2019t take long at all to get in a groove with Bruno.<\/p>\n<p><b>The period look in this film is exquisite. Did you have source material to draw from?<\/b> Joel: Almost none. Ethan: There are some black-and-white still photographs, but there is very little motion-picture footage to look at. Joel: The color look was mainly inspired by the cover of <i>The Freewheelin\u2019 Bob Dylan<\/i> and the series of stills done for that album.<\/p>\n<p><b>We see the title character, played by Oscar Issac, all over New York City in the early 60s \u2013 day exteriors in Washington Square, the subway platform on the Upper West Side, apartments in Greenwich Village \u2013 and they all feel seamless. How hard is that to do?<\/b> Ethan: It\u2019s so difficult in a way that no one is aware of, except you apparently, so it\u2019s very gratifying to hear you say that. Joel: There is so much to get past, in terms of stuff that is anachronistic, that you either have to take down or shoot around. Ethan: So you end up having to do a fair amount of post-fixes and CGI, more than you would imagine. Joel: Especially in the subway scenes.<\/p>\n<p><b>Speaking of which, Oscar gets locked out of his crash pad with the owner\u2019s cat, and they both ride down to the Village on the subway. We see the cat staring at his reflection, and it\u2019s beautiful, strange, prescient.<\/b> Joel: The interior was shot in a period subway at the Subway Museum in New York. The reflection was real, and the exterior was added. Ethan: We also had a little stage set built for a closer reflection of the cat that was essentially a blue-screen composite with plates, which were also altered CGI.<\/p>\n<p><b>So when you write a cat seeing his reflection on a subway into the script, you\u2019re thinking\u2026<\/b> Joel: That it will be a huge pain in the ass. [Laughs.] We did a lot of work with cats on <i>The Ladykillers<\/i>, and they\u2019re impossible to train. Ethan: Just terrible.<\/p>\n<p><b>I sensed a theme in the lighting, particularly the interiors, with a hard key coming in through a window, and everything falling off to shadow, even to the point of what looked like some vignetting in the corners of the frame.<\/b> Joel: Bruno is a big fan of manipulating the imagery [in the computer] after it\u2019s been shot. We did tests early on, and in the first few weeks of dailies, experimenting with the amount of desaturation. What you\u2019re talking about is a bit of blooming in the lights.<\/p>\n<p><b>There\u2019s a key scene toward the end, when Oscar auditions in the club in Chicago. Middle of the day, just him and the owner, with this big daylight key through an open door. Dark and stark, very naturalistic. Was that driven by the narrative?<\/b> Ethan: Bruno\u2019s very much like Roger in that respect \u2013 they both just want to serve the story, rather than make pretty pictures. So, yes, the look and lighting in that scene is designed completely around what\u2019s happening in the story \u2013 naturalism, I suppose. You can call it that.<\/p>\n<p>Joel: And the set for that scene was interesting because it created some anxiety for us, Bruno, and Jess [Gonchor], our production designer. It was an empty theater that was, essentially, just a black box with seats. There was a lot of discussion about how much light should go up on the walls, how many details should go up on the walls, and what we wanted the feeling to be, which was, as you say, a closed-up theater in the middle of the day. The challenge was how to create visual interest given how stark and barren the room is. Bruno\u2019s solution was fantastic: kick all that light through the open doorway and allow just enough detail to get a sense of the space, but not so much that it takes away from the feeling we wanted to achieve.<\/p>\n<p><b>Shooting musical performance scenes, of which there are many in this movie, is tough for the DP, because it often means multiple cameras.<\/b> Ethan: We occasionally used two cameras in the main club. But mostly it was single camera, shot live. The musicians Oscar played with \u2013 he did his own singing and playing \u2013 had an unusual metronomic sense of rhythm, and that allowed us to combine takes. It was a weird, lucky thing that we could shoot single camera live, not have to relight takes, and combine pieces in editorial. Joel: And Oscar never had a click track. He played free and we just cut the songs like we would a dramatic scene, from take to take, whenever we wanted, without a tempo issue.<\/p>\n<p><b>The Kennedy folk-pop song in the studio on which Oscar plays had a click track?<\/b> Joel: Yes, that was shot with multiple cameras and a prerecorded guitar rhythm track that kept them all locked to the sync and tempo. Ethan: Also, that scene was lit for multiple cameras, much brighter in the studio, and Bruno was able to cover everyone without a problem. The main club in the Village was a different story, lighting-wise.<\/p>\n<p><b>One online comment posted to the film\u2019s trailer was: \u201cSomeone please wipe off the lens!\u201d The look is period \u2013 it\u2019s soft and filmic. I\u2019m wondering what you think of a new generation weaned on digital?<\/b> Joel: It\u2019s the common theme of all cinematographers these days, isn\u2019t it? \u201cIt\u2019s too fucking sharp!\u201d [Both Coens laugh.] Joel: This is something we talked about a lot, and we\u2019re in the school that film is already too sharp. You don\u2019t need to make it sharper. All movie photography since the beginning has been about knocking the sharpness down\u2026 Ethan: With lights, and scrims, and diffusion\u2026sharpness is not your friend! Joel: Bruno specifically complained about how [filmgoers] are being eye-trained to expect this super-sharpness. Ethan: It\u2019s just not to our taste.<\/p>\n<p><b>Younger audiences may never have even seen a film dissolve. Does it take the Coen brothers doing a period film to revive it?<\/b> [Laughs]. Ethan: I hadn\u2019t thought about it, but that\u2019s true. No one uses long dissolves anymore. Joel: We just take it as a beautiful way to transition between scenes and images, but I guess you\u2019re right. It\u2019s a long-lost art.<\/p>\n<p><b>Speaking of art, <\/b><b><i>O Brother Where Art Thou?<\/i><\/b><b> is credited as being the first DI. Did it feel, at that<\/b> <b>time, like a seismic change in how much control the director and DP could have?<\/b> Joel: I think a little bit. There was a specific problem with that film that we could not solve photo-chemically, and when we were able to do it in a computer, it was like: \u201cWow, there\u2019s a new way of changing the color and imagery.\u201d Ethan: Yes, but I don\u2019t think we had a sense that [digital color grading] would become the industry standard. Joel: Well, I don\u2019t know. EFILM did it essentially for free, and they were developing it as a new tool for wider applications \u2026 so it was a big deal, sort of \u2026<\/p>\n<p><b>Your films, particularly with Roger, have earned a fair amount of Oscar nominations for cinematography. Is that mainly from just respecting the DP\u2019s craft?<\/b> Joel: Yeah. We work with great DPs and basically let them do their thing. It\u2019s not any more complicated than that, I feel. Ethan: Yeah, definitely.<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you have a favorite film in your r\u00e9sum\u00e9 in terms of the look and what you set out to achieve?<\/b> Joel: I don\u2019t know about a favorite, but this experience with Bruno was really close to where we started, in terms of all the visual references. Ethan: You look at the movie now, and it\u2019s like: \u201cYeah, that was the plan.\u201d I also think <i>The Man Who Wasn\u2019t There <\/i>was a very special film, in terms of Roger\u2019s being able to shoot black and white. It\u2019s so commercially difficult. Joel: Also, I would throw in <i>No Country For Old Men<\/i>, because Roger was just in this unbelievably great zone. The imagery was so evocative throughout that show.<\/p>\n<p><b><i>Inside Llewyn Davis<\/i><\/b><b> reminded me of my favorite Coen film \u2013 <\/b><b><i>Miller\u2019s Crossing<\/i><\/b><b>. It\u2019s like a slow burn where things keep getting worse even though you\u2019re hoping they get better. Do you worry about repeating yourself?<\/b> Joel: Yes. [Laughs]. We used not to give a shit, but there\u2019s no doubt it\u2019s an occupational hazard at this point in our lives. [Laughs]. Ethan: It happens all the time. We look at each other on the set and go: \u201cHaven\u2019t we done this before?\u201d Joel: The most glaring example to me was shooting <i>Fargo<\/i>. We were up on a highway in the middle of the night, parked car on the side of the road with its headlights on and an oncoming vehicle with headlights. 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